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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 00:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting? ? ?

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		<title>By: jepoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jepoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion here:

http://www.gameops.net/2010/04/timothy-ellis-cumper.html</description>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You are probably mixing business with friendship, since you say “encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK”.
Mr. Jalbuena was probably being friendly to you without being your friend. Do you know that there’s a difference between “friendly behaviour” and “my friend”? Most of the people you met were probably just being friendly and hospitable to you, which is part of their culture.&quot;

Well - we are being rather picky - how is it expected to develop a true friendship in 10 days?
My entire time was spent focused on the relationship - the girl - my girl&quot;friend&quot; - the love of my life - my future.
I am not the type to go out drinking in bars.
Deep friendships become sparser as we get older.

&quot;Have you considered that you were just behaving like an asshole, from the point of view of the ones who were dealing with their problems in their country? And that your behaviour let them leave you alone because they felt your attitude insulting?&quot;

Of course that is a possibility.
Had their focus been spread across a broad spectrum of understanding, and not solely on the money - perhaps there would have been space in their communications to appreciate the dilemma and urgency that I was faced with.
I was on the edge of my seat 24 hours a day during that time - waiting - confused and bewildered by the ambiguity of it all.

Did that go unnoticed?
The responses I was getting seemed to indicate that it did.
The &quot;idea&quot; - and that&#039;s all it was realistically, no more than an idea - was hoisted upon me from their shores.
It was down to them to give me adequate cause to believe it - it was not down to me to invent and believe excuses for people that might have been trying something on.
How unreasonable is that expectation?
Was I supposed to trust the love - implicitly - blindly?
That is precisely the expectation in a scam situation - the benefit of the doubt will always yield to the emotional conditioning.

&quot;You keep measuring a foreign country and people with your british ruler and that’s quite retarded.&quot;

Great word - retarded.
In the absence of a thorough knowledge - what else can be used to measure?
You are using hindsight as a weapon - demonstrating your commitment with hatred.

I am quite capable of reading, absorbing and understanding your perspective.
It is already a cliché - it has already been stated countless times before.
Nevertheless - it comes under the category of &quot;excuses made on behalf of.&quot;
It is simply more speculation, but of a different flavour.

Yes - I agree - it is monstrously boring - covering the same ground time after time - and always arriving back at the same ultimate conclusion.
The struggle that has ensued is entirely about the publicity, the perception and people&#039;s energetically voiced objections to that publicity.
They will attempt to get a foothold on the truth that lies beneath the surface of the story - but fail - just as I have done.
I am interested in that truth for its own sake - not simply to be used as a crowbar of perception.
The story needs no other exposure - especially a patently distorted exposure - to garner an incited support.
That is what has happened.
Under the cloak of moral outrage - there hides a purely business oriented strategy.

That is of no value whatever in my search for the truth - because it patently cannot be trusted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You are probably mixing business with friendship, since you say “encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK”.<br />
Mr. Jalbuena was probably being friendly to you without being your friend. Do you know that there’s a difference between “friendly behaviour” and “my friend”? Most of the people you met were probably just being friendly and hospitable to you, which is part of their culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well &#8211; we are being rather picky &#8211; how is it expected to develop a true friendship in 10 days?<br />
My entire time was spent focused on the relationship &#8211; the girl &#8211; my girl&#8221;friend&#8221; &#8211; the love of my life &#8211; my future.<br />
I am not the type to go out drinking in bars.<br />
Deep friendships become sparser as we get older.</p>
<p>&#8220;Have you considered that you were just behaving like an asshole, from the point of view of the ones who were dealing with their problems in their country? And that your behaviour let them leave you alone because they felt your attitude insulting?&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course that is a possibility.<br />
Had their focus been spread across a broad spectrum of understanding, and not solely on the money &#8211; perhaps there would have been space in their communications to appreciate the dilemma and urgency that I was faced with.<br />
I was on the edge of my seat 24 hours a day during that time &#8211; waiting &#8211; confused and bewildered by the ambiguity of it all.</p>
<p>Did that go unnoticed?<br />
The responses I was getting seemed to indicate that it did.<br />
The &#8220;idea&#8221; &#8211; and that&#8217;s all it was realistically, no more than an idea &#8211; was hoisted upon me from their shores.<br />
It was down to them to give me adequate cause to believe it &#8211; it was not down to me to invent and believe excuses for people that might have been trying something on.<br />
How unreasonable is that expectation?<br />
Was I supposed to trust the love &#8211; implicitly &#8211; blindly?<br />
That is precisely the expectation in a scam situation &#8211; the benefit of the doubt will always yield to the emotional conditioning.</p>
<p>&#8220;You keep measuring a foreign country and people with your british ruler and that’s quite retarded.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great word &#8211; retarded.<br />
In the absence of a thorough knowledge &#8211; what else can be used to measure?<br />
You are using hindsight as a weapon &#8211; demonstrating your commitment with hatred.</p>
<p>I am quite capable of reading, absorbing and understanding your perspective.<br />
It is already a cliché &#8211; it has already been stated countless times before.<br />
Nevertheless &#8211; it comes under the category of &#8220;excuses made on behalf of.&#8221;<br />
It is simply more speculation, but of a different flavour.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; I agree &#8211; it is monstrously boring &#8211; covering the same ground time after time &#8211; and always arriving back at the same ultimate conclusion.<br />
The struggle that has ensued is entirely about the publicity, the perception and people&#8217;s energetically voiced objections to that publicity.<br />
They will attempt to get a foothold on the truth that lies beneath the surface of the story &#8211; but fail &#8211; just as I have done.<br />
I am interested in that truth for its own sake &#8211; not simply to be used as a crowbar of perception.<br />
The story needs no other exposure &#8211; especially a patently distorted exposure &#8211; to garner an incited support.<br />
That is what has happened.<br />
Under the cloak of moral outrage &#8211; there hides a purely business oriented strategy.</p>
<p>That is of no value whatever in my search for the truth &#8211; because it patently cannot be trusted.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1194</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;From what i gathered reading your blog you probably went there with an excessive thinking about money and business&quot;

You could not be more wrong. If that is a product of your understanding - then no wonder your other assessments of me are completely off target.

Absolutely, astonishingly, brilliantly - WRONG.

had you been inside my body at that time - you would have felt nothing but an adoration, a happiness that you had not experienced before - a love, that seemed far too good to be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From what i gathered reading your blog you probably went there with an excessive thinking about money and business&#8221;</p>
<p>You could not be more wrong. If that is a product of your understanding &#8211; then no wonder your other assessments of me are completely off target.</p>
<p>Absolutely, astonishingly, brilliantly &#8211; WRONG.</p>
<p>had you been inside my body at that time &#8211; you would have felt nothing but an adoration, a happiness that you had not experienced before &#8211; a love, that seemed far too good to be true.</p>
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		<title>By: Briscolone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Briscolone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are probably mixing business with friendship, since you say &quot;encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK&quot;.
Mr. Jalbuena was probably being friendly to you without being your friend. Do you know that there&#039;s a difference between &quot;friendly behaviour&quot; and &quot;my friend&quot;? Most of the people you met were probably just being friendly and hospitable to you, which is part of their culture.

&quot;I can expect the urgency of the situation to fully comprehended by all those allegedly there to help.
I can understand the translation of my requests, by these people, as a priority – for the sake of the relationship and for the sake of countering my justified suspicions.
I cannot understand why – when none of the above happened – I was not immediately informed of the reasons, and alternatives suggested.
I was faced instead with what appeared to be a blank refusal to cooperate, combined with emotional hyperbole.&quot;
Have you considered that you were just behaving like an asshole, from the point of view of the ones who were dealing with their problems in their country? And that your behaviour let them leave you alone because they felt your attitude insulting?

You don&#039;t know much more than what everybody can read on the web about the Philippines, you lack a real knowledge of the place, probably because when you were there
-your stay was short
-you were confused by the mix of love, desire to change your life completely, fear of being scammed or be the golden goose there forever
-you had no time and/or no chance to make real friends there, somebody who cares for you and not only for the business websites.

I know enough about health care in the Philippines; i have eyewitnessed a situation where a girl about to give birth and needing a cesarean was kept out of the surgery room until her man came back with some cash and some medicines he had to buy in an external pharmacy. You keep measuring a foreign country and people with your british ruler and that&#039;s quite retarded.
Then if one day the Big Revelation comes you&#039;ll prove me to be wrong but you are the one who can&#039;t apparently detach for a second from his own biased point of view.

Anyway i have enough of playing tennis with you, i have tried to show you a few things from a different perspective but you keep talking the same bullshit.
If somebody doesn&#039;t fully believe in your version of the story, he/she &quot;hasn&#039;t tried hard enough&quot;: that equals to say that you own the irrefutable truth but when you are asked for proof you only can give suspicion and jigsaw.
So have fun, i&#039;ll go to some other place where i can exchange opinions with other readers; you are boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are probably mixing business with friendship, since you say &#8220;encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK&#8221;.<br />
Mr. Jalbuena was probably being friendly to you without being your friend. Do you know that there&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;friendly behaviour&#8221; and &#8220;my friend&#8221;? Most of the people you met were probably just being friendly and hospitable to you, which is part of their culture.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can expect the urgency of the situation to fully comprehended by all those allegedly there to help.<br />
I can understand the translation of my requests, by these people, as a priority – for the sake of the relationship and for the sake of countering my justified suspicions.<br />
I cannot understand why – when none of the above happened – I was not immediately informed of the reasons, and alternatives suggested.<br />
I was faced instead with what appeared to be a blank refusal to cooperate, combined with emotional hyperbole.&#8221;<br />
Have you considered that you were just behaving like an asshole, from the point of view of the ones who were dealing with their problems in their country? And that your behaviour let them leave you alone because they felt your attitude insulting?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know much more than what everybody can read on the web about the Philippines, you lack a real knowledge of the place, probably because when you were there<br />
-your stay was short<br />
-you were confused by the mix of love, desire to change your life completely, fear of being scammed or be the golden goose there forever<br />
-you had no time and/or no chance to make real friends there, somebody who cares for you and not only for the business websites.</p>
<p>I know enough about health care in the Philippines; i have eyewitnessed a situation where a girl about to give birth and needing a cesarean was kept out of the surgery room until her man came back with some cash and some medicines he had to buy in an external pharmacy. You keep measuring a foreign country and people with your british ruler and that&#8217;s quite retarded.<br />
Then if one day the Big Revelation comes you&#8217;ll prove me to be wrong but you are the one who can&#8217;t apparently detach for a second from his own biased point of view.</p>
<p>Anyway i have enough of playing tennis with you, i have tried to show you a few things from a different perspective but you keep talking the same bullshit.<br />
If somebody doesn&#8217;t fully believe in your version of the story, he/she &#8220;hasn&#8217;t tried hard enough&#8221;: that equals to say that you own the irrefutable truth but when you are asked for proof you only can give suspicion and jigsaw.<br />
So have fun, i&#8217;ll go to some other place where i can exchange opinions with other readers; you are boring.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t have a particular commitment and i ain’t obsessed, thanx all the gods for that; my only requirement is that you publicly apologize for your stupid behaviour, spamming, accusing lots of people of being part of a crime syndicate that probably exists only in your dreams, delete the offending material you posted against people who i don’t even know.
If you do that, stop twittering like a fool, stop all this conspiracy bullshit, on my side i will publicly apologize for calling you names and, even though i have no power on what other netizens do, i’ll try to contact a few of them that are probably easy to get in touch with through their blogs asking them to do the same “content removal”. But i can’t say that they will grant my request because we don’t even know each other.&quot;

You are at such a disadvantage with your anonymity.
How you expect any degree of trust to be forthcoming, when I have absolutely no idea who you are?

You see, your words are in denial of your activity. You say you have no particular commitment - when patently you have - you have expectations as well.
Am I to trust that your motivation is altruistic and beneficent?
Because that is the most you hope for in your predicament of anonymity.

Am I to trust, amidst all the incessant and determined activity of the previous two years, that Briscolone is the exception?

Am I to believe that your revealed requirement - which coincides perfectly with the whole aim of this orchestrated campaign - has no particular connection to it?
Am I to believe that you require me to remove my writings simply to please you, when you could quite simply avoid them by not visiting, by non-involvement?

All for the &quot;carrot&quot; of an apology from you -an anonymous entity on the Internet?

Unlike most - my sole intention, my sole motivation is to discover the truth.
I am beyond caring about people&#039;s perception of me - the name-calling - the innuendo - the false accusation.
It is hollow and carries no real sting.
I will not be palmed off with platitudes - I will not be intimidated by bullies - and I will not be satisfied with half-truths and transparently feeble excuses.

Apologies will come - only when deserved.
I am always prepared to apologise.

Have you suddenly assumed the role of negotiator-in-chief?
Your requirements and the tone of most of your writing here -  is focused around people&#039;s perception - it concentrates mainly on the publicity aspect - showing where your commitment does lie.
On perception - not on discovering the truth through impartiality.
It is perception that is the threat, it is the publicity that is the impediment.
After all - that is all you know about.
The whole psychology of the campaign is to  bend perception - assisted by a severe distortion of an already documented story.

Where is the need for anybody to loudly oppose?
It is full of ambiguity - where is the danger?
It is full of speculation - where is the absolute accusation?

It could have quite simply been defused by the truth - before it was even made public.
It could have been neutralised by a cooperative understanding - by communication - intent on cutting a clear &amp; direct path to that truth.
Where is the need for recrimination, for blame - if it was all a simple misunderstanding?

My only focus was getting to that truth - because behind that truth was the true image of the girl I loved.
My love would not have stopped - simply I would bring more understanding to it.

Considering all the time that has passed, all the energy spent, all the words written, all the anger and hatred - and still that cooperation has not manifest - something decidedly strange has been going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t have a particular commitment and i ain’t obsessed, thanx all the gods for that; my only requirement is that you publicly apologize for your stupid behaviour, spamming, accusing lots of people of being part of a crime syndicate that probably exists only in your dreams, delete the offending material you posted against people who i don’t even know.<br />
If you do that, stop twittering like a fool, stop all this conspiracy bullshit, on my side i will publicly apologize for calling you names and, even though i have no power on what other netizens do, i’ll try to contact a few of them that are probably easy to get in touch with through their blogs asking them to do the same “content removal”. But i can’t say that they will grant my request because we don’t even know each other.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are at such a disadvantage with your anonymity.<br />
How you expect any degree of trust to be forthcoming, when I have absolutely no idea who you are?</p>
<p>You see, your words are in denial of your activity. You say you have no particular commitment &#8211; when patently you have &#8211; you have expectations as well.<br />
Am I to trust that your motivation is altruistic and beneficent?<br />
Because that is the most you hope for in your predicament of anonymity.</p>
<p>Am I to trust, amidst all the incessant and determined activity of the previous two years, that Briscolone is the exception?</p>
<p>Am I to believe that your revealed requirement &#8211; which coincides perfectly with the whole aim of this orchestrated campaign &#8211; has no particular connection to it?<br />
Am I to believe that you require me to remove my writings simply to please you, when you could quite simply avoid them by not visiting, by non-involvement?</p>
<p>All for the &#8220;carrot&#8221; of an apology from you -an anonymous entity on the Internet?</p>
<p>Unlike most &#8211; my sole intention, my sole motivation is to discover the truth.<br />
I am beyond caring about people&#8217;s perception of me &#8211; the name-calling &#8211; the innuendo &#8211; the false accusation.<br />
It is hollow and carries no real sting.<br />
I will not be palmed off with platitudes &#8211; I will not be intimidated by bullies &#8211; and I will not be satisfied with half-truths and transparently feeble excuses.</p>
<p>Apologies will come &#8211; only when deserved.<br />
I am always prepared to apologise.</p>
<p>Have you suddenly assumed the role of negotiator-in-chief?<br />
Your requirements and the tone of most of your writing here &#8211;  is focused around people&#8217;s perception &#8211; it concentrates mainly on the publicity aspect &#8211; showing where your commitment does lie.<br />
On perception &#8211; not on discovering the truth through impartiality.<br />
It is perception that is the threat, it is the publicity that is the impediment.<br />
After all &#8211; that is all you know about.<br />
The whole psychology of the campaign is to  bend perception &#8211; assisted by a severe distortion of an already documented story.</p>
<p>Where is the need for anybody to loudly oppose?<br />
It is full of ambiguity &#8211; where is the danger?<br />
It is full of speculation &#8211; where is the absolute accusation?</p>
<p>It could have quite simply been defused by the truth &#8211; before it was even made public.<br />
It could have been neutralised by a cooperative understanding &#8211; by communication &#8211; intent on cutting a clear &amp; direct path to that truth.<br />
Where is the need for recrimination, for blame &#8211; if it was all a simple misunderstanding?</p>
<p>My only focus was getting to that truth &#8211; because behind that truth was the true image of the girl I loved.<br />
My love would not have stopped &#8211; simply I would bring more understanding to it.</p>
<p>Considering all the time that has passed, all the energy spent, all the words written, all the anger and hatred &#8211; and still that cooperation has not manifest &#8211; something decidedly strange has been going on.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In your case you clearly showed from the start a different form of paranoia, because you left your country with the “i’ll be scammed” idea rocking and rolling in your mind and you adapted lots of events to fit your jigsaw of scam and corruption.&quot;

Your impenetrable insistence and constant focus on this point proves undoubtedly that it is key to your psychological approach.

You are trying to make out that I exaggerated the possibility of being scammed in my own mind.

If that were the case, I would not have taken the trip.
Scamming is a very real possibility - the reality of which you seem to be in denial of - most particularly in the country of my destination.
In fact - I had not discovered the full prevalence of it at all before I started reading about it during my search for clues.
Nevertheless - apart from being completely naive and stupid - a degree of caution is going to be lurking at the back of the mind, especially in the circumstances of meeting a virtual stranger from a dating site.

It is very easy to disguise an ulterior motive underneath the cloak of romance.
It was made easier still by the natural charm, beauty and warmth of the Filipina I met.
It was made easier still because of the completely relaxed atmosphere &amp; closeness when we were together.
None of which would have been as simple had I a shell of resistance around me - caused by the paranoia you are insisting on.
Had my paranoia been as hair-trigger as you suspect - surely those suspicions would have immediately sounded the alarm - for instance, when the girl gently dismissed my query about using contraception?

It is only in hindsight - the power of memory - the honesty with which I apply this hindsight - which has increased the causes for suspicion - all focusing on that key situation of &quot;hospitalisation.&quot;
That was the pivotal moment - when everything assumed an ambiguous perspective - and everything about the relationship required a new clarity and confirmation of intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In your case you clearly showed from the start a different form of paranoia, because you left your country with the “i’ll be scammed” idea rocking and rolling in your mind and you adapted lots of events to fit your jigsaw of scam and corruption.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your impenetrable insistence and constant focus on this point proves undoubtedly that it is key to your psychological approach.</p>
<p>You are trying to make out that I exaggerated the possibility of being scammed in my own mind.</p>
<p>If that were the case, I would not have taken the trip.<br />
Scamming is a very real possibility &#8211; the reality of which you seem to be in denial of &#8211; most particularly in the country of my destination.<br />
In fact &#8211; I had not discovered the full prevalence of it at all before I started reading about it during my search for clues.<br />
Nevertheless &#8211; apart from being completely naive and stupid &#8211; a degree of caution is going to be lurking at the back of the mind, especially in the circumstances of meeting a virtual stranger from a dating site.</p>
<p>It is very easy to disguise an ulterior motive underneath the cloak of romance.<br />
It was made easier still by the natural charm, beauty and warmth of the Filipina I met.<br />
It was made easier still because of the completely relaxed atmosphere &amp; closeness when we were together.<br />
None of which would have been as simple had I a shell of resistance around me &#8211; caused by the paranoia you are insisting on.<br />
Had my paranoia been as hair-trigger as you suspect &#8211; surely those suspicions would have immediately sounded the alarm &#8211; for instance, when the girl gently dismissed my query about using contraception?</p>
<p>It is only in hindsight &#8211; the power of memory &#8211; the honesty with which I apply this hindsight &#8211; which has increased the causes for suspicion &#8211; all focusing on that key situation of &#8220;hospitalisation.&#8221;<br />
That was the pivotal moment &#8211; when everything assumed an ambiguous perspective &#8211; and everything about the relationship required a new clarity and confirmation of intent.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When you were back and the blogging saga started your paranoia increased to the point of including an army of people to your supposed scam attempt, creating an organized crime syndicate where there could have been just a bad luck case.&quot;

Wrong - the possibility of organisation was transparently obvious - by the variety of people originally involved.
Enough to cause this speculation - and that is all it was.
Many  might have simple been conscripted to provide covering evidence.
However, that is still an interpretation of the word &quot;organised&quot; - people willing to do favours for a perceived common cause.

The organisation of the bloggers is self-apparent and also is self-admitted.
The strong possibility of an initial link between them and the original circle still remains.

I have admitted to being naive at times as to the degree of organisation I imagined at times - but this is supported by a solidarity of method - and coincides with the aim of the original idea behind the propaganda campaign - to obliterate my story - with an artificially generated tzunami of opposition - by presenting a totally distorted version of what actually happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When you were back and the blogging saga started your paranoia increased to the point of including an army of people to your supposed scam attempt, creating an organized crime syndicate where there could have been just a bad luck case.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong &#8211; the possibility of organisation was transparently obvious &#8211; by the variety of people originally involved.<br />
Enough to cause this speculation &#8211; and that is all it was.<br />
Many  might have simple been conscripted to provide covering evidence.<br />
However, that is still an interpretation of the word &#8220;organised&#8221; &#8211; people willing to do favours for a perceived common cause.</p>
<p>The organisation of the bloggers is self-apparent and also is self-admitted.<br />
The strong possibility of an initial link between them and the original circle still remains.</p>
<p>I have admitted to being naive at times as to the degree of organisation I imagined at times &#8211; but this is supported by a solidarity of method &#8211; and coincides with the aim of the original idea behind the propaganda campaign &#8211; to obliterate my story &#8211; with an artificially generated tzunami of opposition &#8211; by presenting a totally distorted version of what actually happened.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1187</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My bias is the son of your attitude and behaviour; you get what you deserve here. Were you less arrogant and ready to cry conspiracy, were you more open to criticism and able to accept that there is and there will always be who doesn’t believe you, you wouldn’t have got into this deep puddle of webshit.&quot;

Pretending to be devil&#039;s advocate are we?
I am ready to discuss with anyone who can demonstrate impartiality.
You fell at the first fence, Briscolone - as did most of the &quot;also rans.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My bias is the son of your attitude and behaviour; you get what you deserve here. Were you less arrogant and ready to cry conspiracy, were you more open to criticism and able to accept that there is and there will always be who doesn’t believe you, you wouldn’t have got into this deep puddle of webshit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretending to be devil&#8217;s advocate are we?<br />
I am ready to discuss with anyone who can demonstrate impartiality.<br />
You fell at the first fence, Briscolone &#8211; as did most of the &#8220;also rans.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1186</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and of course you made no friends there; otherwise you’d have been assisted in all the trouble that came later&quot;

Nonsense - the people involved in this saga were the people I met, they were my &quot;friends&quot; - encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK.
Ha!
What friendship?
It wasn&#039;t strong enough to survive this was it?
It wasn&#039;t sincere enough to actually make any effort to help me was it?
Just like all the vast majority of other Filipinos who have jumped on this band-wagon of contempt - there are very few indeed who will put a foreigner before someone of their own nationality - while simultaneously denying any such bias.

Don&#039;t make me laugh even louder!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and of course you made no friends there; otherwise you’d have been assisted in all the trouble that came later&#8221;</p>
<p>Nonsense &#8211; the people involved in this saga were the people I met, they were my &#8220;friends&#8221; &#8211; encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK.<br />
Ha!<br />
What friendship?<br />
It wasn&#8217;t strong enough to survive this was it?<br />
It wasn&#8217;t sincere enough to actually make any effort to help me was it?<br />
Just like all the vast majority of other Filipinos who have jumped on this band-wagon of contempt &#8211; there are very few indeed who will put a foreigner before someone of their own nationality &#8211; while simultaneously denying any such bias.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t make me laugh even louder!</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1185</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;1-You can’t decide how other people in another country deal with their problems, you can’t pretend that a foreign hospital’s staff jumps when you push a button when they owe absolutely nothing to you. They can be astonishingly rough to their own people so don’t be surprised if they don’t give a damn about you and your claims.&quot;

I can expect the urgency of the situation to fully comprehended by all those allegedly there to help.
I can understand the translation of my requests, by these people, as a priority - for the sake of the relationship and for the sake of countering my justified suspicions.
I cannot understand why - when none of the above happened -  I was not immediately informed of the reasons, and alternatives suggested.
I was faced instead with what appeared to be a blank refusal to cooperate, combined  with emotional hyperbole.
Given that the whole situation at the time was already being approached with a degree of caution on my behalf - for obvious reasons - this behaviour set the seal on what followed.

&quot;2-You are sure that you are right but that doesn’t imply that everybody else sees evidence in your suspicion.&quot;

I can fully understand that - but it is my right to insist that a situation is seen as thoroughly and with an equally serious disposition as I applied to it - which is too much to expect from any outsider - especially those considering themselves already as &quot;insiders&quot; - because of nationality and an aptitude for contempt.

&quot;3-If you know anything about the internet and its social aspects you are well aware that i can throw shit at you for years and i will be an annoying thug but you have been annoying a consistent number of people, earning a much worse degree in trolling and harassing. Remember that one single murder gets a smaller punishment than a mass murder or a genocide.&quot;

The simple reason is this - a consistent number of people - in a concerted effort against one solitary person - is bullying.
I will not be subdued by bullying.

&quot;4-After behaving like an arrogant paranoidiot with all the critics and the skeptics, you can’t get away with it just talking about taking sides and intimidation. I have tried to look at your story from your perspective and with the advantage of having a much better knowledge of the Philippines country and people than yours but you haven’t convinced me at all.&quot;

You believe you.
Then you haven&#039;t tried hard enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1-You can’t decide how other people in another country deal with their problems, you can’t pretend that a foreign hospital’s staff jumps when you push a button when they owe absolutely nothing to you. They can be astonishingly rough to their own people so don’t be surprised if they don’t give a damn about you and your claims.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can expect the urgency of the situation to fully comprehended by all those allegedly there to help.<br />
I can understand the translation of my requests, by these people, as a priority &#8211; for the sake of the relationship and for the sake of countering my justified suspicions.<br />
I cannot understand why &#8211; when none of the above happened &#8211;  I was not immediately informed of the reasons, and alternatives suggested.<br />
I was faced instead with what appeared to be a blank refusal to cooperate, combined  with emotional hyperbole.<br />
Given that the whole situation at the time was already being approached with a degree of caution on my behalf &#8211; for obvious reasons &#8211; this behaviour set the seal on what followed.</p>
<p>&#8220;2-You are sure that you are right but that doesn’t imply that everybody else sees evidence in your suspicion.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can fully understand that &#8211; but it is my right to insist that a situation is seen as thoroughly and with an equally serious disposition as I applied to it &#8211; which is too much to expect from any outsider &#8211; especially those considering themselves already as &#8220;insiders&#8221; &#8211; because of nationality and an aptitude for contempt.</p>
<p>&#8220;3-If you know anything about the internet and its social aspects you are well aware that i can throw shit at you for years and i will be an annoying thug but you have been annoying a consistent number of people, earning a much worse degree in trolling and harassing. Remember that one single murder gets a smaller punishment than a mass murder or a genocide.&#8221;</p>
<p>The simple reason is this &#8211; a consistent number of people &#8211; in a concerted effort against one solitary person &#8211; is bullying.<br />
I will not be subdued by bullying.</p>
<p>&#8220;4-After behaving like an arrogant paranoidiot with all the critics and the skeptics, you can’t get away with it just talking about taking sides and intimidation. I have tried to look at your story from your perspective and with the advantage of having a much better knowledge of the Philippines country and people than yours but you haven’t convinced me at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>You believe you.<br />
Then you haven&#8217;t tried hard enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Briscolone</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1183</link>
		<dc:creator>Briscolone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replying to the first of your last couple of posts:
Teaching somebody to triple-check a website before using his credit card or giving away his personal data, teaching somebody not to trust emails from nigerian lawyers, teaching somebody to do some kind of research on things related to the web activities is teaching some kind of paranoia that is very useful to avoid some problems. And it is good to be aware of those things.
In your case you clearly showed from the start a different form of paranoia, because you left your country with the &quot;i&#039;ll be scammed&quot; idea rocking and rolling in your mind and you adapted lots of events to fit your jigsaw of scam and corruption.
When you were back and the blogging saga started your paranoia increased to the point of including an army of people to your supposed scam attempt, creating an organized crime syndicate where there could have been just a bad luck case.

1-You can&#039;t decide how other people in another country deal with their problems, you can&#039;t pretend that a foreign hospital&#039;s staff jumps when you push a button when they owe absolutely nothing to you. They can be astonishingly rough to their own people so don&#039;t be surprised if they don&#039;t give a damn about you and your claims.

2-You are sure that you are right but that doesn&#039;t imply that everybody else sees evidence in your suspicion.

3-If you know anything about the internet and its social aspects you are well aware that i can throw shit at you for years and i will be an annoying thug but you have been annoying a consistent number of people, earning a much worse degree in trolling and harassing. Remember that one single murder gets a smaller punishment than a mass murder or a genocide.

4-After behaving like an arrogant paranoidiot with all the critics and the skeptics, you can&#039;t get away with it just talking about taking sides and intimidation. I have tried to look at your story from your perspective and with the advantage of having a much better knowledge of the Philippines country and people than yours but you haven&#039;t convinced me at all.

My bias is the son of your attitude and behaviour; you get what you deserve here. Were you less arrogant and ready to cry conspiracy, were you more open to criticism and able to accept that there is and there will always be who doesn&#039;t believe you, you wouldn&#039;t have got into this deep puddle of webshit.

I don&#039;t have a particular commitment and i ain&#039;t obsessed, thanx all the gods for that; my only requirement is that you publicly apologize for your stupid behaviour, spamming, accusing lots of people of being part of a crime syndicate that probably exists only in your dreams, delete the offending material you posted against people who i don&#039;t even know.
If you do that, stop twittering like a fool, stop all this conspiracy bullshit, on my side i will publicly apologize for calling you names and, even though i have no power on what other netizens do, i&#039;ll try to contact a few of them that are probably easy to get in touch with through their blogs asking them to do the same &quot;content removal&quot;. But i can&#039;t say that they will grant my request because we don&#039;t even know each other.

What do i think is the best way forward from here? What i said above, then you can go on doing your job of warning people against the scam risk in dragonladies. That is, in my humble opinion, absolutely acceptable even though i don&#039;t practice scambaiting.

Now reply to the second of your last couple of posts:
You should really go to spend some time with some Pinoy people in their country to understand that you can&#039;t generalize them the way lots of articles (like the one you copyandpasted) do.
I know about those aspects like the brown skin complex, the crab mentality, the defensive behaviour and the need to identify with some kind of hero but i can say, and no way you can contradict me on this subject, that if you ever make some friends even in a thugs infested squatter area in Metro Manila where you can be knifed for a wristwatch or cellphone, if you have an open conversation with them without telling them bullshit about how good west is and how desperately their country sucks, if you can drink a few beers and have a laugh with them without always complaining about something (as the kanos usually do) then there will be somebody who will stand up with his fists or a knife or whatever it takes to protect you from every kind of harm.
There will be a bunch of people grabbing you and pulling you away if you are going in some place that is really too dangerous for you.
There will be somebody who will risk to be arrested shouting in a policeman&#039;s face because you are caught in some stupid situation.
But you are a guest there and you are the first one who HAS TO be humble and friendly to them. A foreigner can be deported and banned forever from the Phils for open criticism against the government or institutions. You may dislike that but it&#039;s THEIR country so you can stay in London and call your queen names but don&#039;t do the same in Manila.
There are places in my country where you risk your life and probably nobody gives a fuck about you being knifed for your wallet, they won&#039;t probably call an ambulance or the police to avoid being questioned about something. No doubt the same happens in some parts of the UK or any big city in the usa.
So i think i&#039;d be happier to be in trouble in the Phils with some friends around than in London or Naples or Los Angeles.
From what i gathered reading your blog you probably went there with an excessive thinking about money and business and of course you made no friends there; otherwise you&#039;d have been assisted in all the trouble that came later, you can believe me on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replying to the first of your last couple of posts:<br />
Teaching somebody to triple-check a website before using his credit card or giving away his personal data, teaching somebody not to trust emails from nigerian lawyers, teaching somebody to do some kind of research on things related to the web activities is teaching some kind of paranoia that is very useful to avoid some problems. And it is good to be aware of those things.<br />
In your case you clearly showed from the start a different form of paranoia, because you left your country with the &#8220;i&#8217;ll be scammed&#8221; idea rocking and rolling in your mind and you adapted lots of events to fit your jigsaw of scam and corruption.<br />
When you were back and the blogging saga started your paranoia increased to the point of including an army of people to your supposed scam attempt, creating an organized crime syndicate where there could have been just a bad luck case.</p>
<p>1-You can&#8217;t decide how other people in another country deal with their problems, you can&#8217;t pretend that a foreign hospital&#8217;s staff jumps when you push a button when they owe absolutely nothing to you. They can be astonishingly rough to their own people so don&#8217;t be surprised if they don&#8217;t give a damn about you and your claims.</p>
<p>2-You are sure that you are right but that doesn&#8217;t imply that everybody else sees evidence in your suspicion.</p>
<p>3-If you know anything about the internet and its social aspects you are well aware that i can throw shit at you for years and i will be an annoying thug but you have been annoying a consistent number of people, earning a much worse degree in trolling and harassing. Remember that one single murder gets a smaller punishment than a mass murder or a genocide.</p>
<p>4-After behaving like an arrogant paranoidiot with all the critics and the skeptics, you can&#8217;t get away with it just talking about taking sides and intimidation. I have tried to look at your story from your perspective and with the advantage of having a much better knowledge of the Philippines country and people than yours but you haven&#8217;t convinced me at all.</p>
<p>My bias is the son of your attitude and behaviour; you get what you deserve here. Were you less arrogant and ready to cry conspiracy, were you more open to criticism and able to accept that there is and there will always be who doesn&#8217;t believe you, you wouldn&#8217;t have got into this deep puddle of webshit.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a particular commitment and i ain&#8217;t obsessed, thanx all the gods for that; my only requirement is that you publicly apologize for your stupid behaviour, spamming, accusing lots of people of being part of a crime syndicate that probably exists only in your dreams, delete the offending material you posted against people who i don&#8217;t even know.<br />
If you do that, stop twittering like a fool, stop all this conspiracy bullshit, on my side i will publicly apologize for calling you names and, even though i have no power on what other netizens do, i&#8217;ll try to contact a few of them that are probably easy to get in touch with through their blogs asking them to do the same &#8220;content removal&#8221;. But i can&#8217;t say that they will grant my request because we don&#8217;t even know each other.</p>
<p>What do i think is the best way forward from here? What i said above, then you can go on doing your job of warning people against the scam risk in dragonladies. That is, in my humble opinion, absolutely acceptable even though i don&#8217;t practice scambaiting.</p>
<p>Now reply to the second of your last couple of posts:<br />
You should really go to spend some time with some Pinoy people in their country to understand that you can&#8217;t generalize them the way lots of articles (like the one you copyandpasted) do.<br />
I know about those aspects like the brown skin complex, the crab mentality, the defensive behaviour and the need to identify with some kind of hero but i can say, and no way you can contradict me on this subject, that if you ever make some friends even in a thugs infested squatter area in Metro Manila where you can be knifed for a wristwatch or cellphone, if you have an open conversation with them without telling them bullshit about how good west is and how desperately their country sucks, if you can drink a few beers and have a laugh with them without always complaining about something (as the kanos usually do) then there will be somebody who will stand up with his fists or a knife or whatever it takes to protect you from every kind of harm.<br />
There will be a bunch of people grabbing you and pulling you away if you are going in some place that is really too dangerous for you.<br />
There will be somebody who will risk to be arrested shouting in a policeman&#8217;s face because you are caught in some stupid situation.<br />
But you are a guest there and you are the first one who HAS TO be humble and friendly to them. A foreigner can be deported and banned forever from the Phils for open criticism against the government or institutions. You may dislike that but it&#8217;s THEIR country so you can stay in London and call your queen names but don&#8217;t do the same in Manila.<br />
There are places in my country where you risk your life and probably nobody gives a fuck about you being knifed for your wallet, they won&#8217;t probably call an ambulance or the police to avoid being questioned about something. No doubt the same happens in some parts of the UK or any big city in the usa.<br />
So i think i&#8217;d be happier to be in trouble in the Phils with some friends around than in London or Naples or Los Angeles.<br />
From what i gathered reading your blog you probably went there with an excessive thinking about money and business and of course you made no friends there; otherwise you&#8217;d have been assisted in all the trouble that came later, you can believe me on this.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 04:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A pertinent quote which explains how a) The propaganda was so predictable. b) Support for the propaganda is so predictable.

Innate, defensive behaviour is of more importance than discovering the truth.

&quot;The Philippines has had a long and tumultuous past, marked with colonialism and the endless search for true identity. Because the country spent so many years under colonial rule, the Filipinos were often left feeling like helpless victims. In fact, it is believed that one of the main reasons it seemed so easy for Spain to colonize the Philippines was because the Filipino people were awfully kind, forgiving, and subservient. It is because of this past that, until today, there remains a class hierarchy, as well as a struggle between the rich and the poor. As such, it is no surprise that among the many unique traits in Filipino culture is that of the “api” mentality, or, in English, the “victim” mentality.

The api mentality in Filipino culture is rooted in a strong sense of paranoia, or the undeniable feeling of inferiority. Perhaps it is only logical to blame the country’s past for this Filipino weakness, as it is still found in the psyche of many Filipinos today. 

You might often hear the phrase “Parang ina-api ako,” which, in English, means, “I feel as though I’m being looked down upon,” or “I feel like I’m being treated like an insignificant person.” What this really means is that the api mentality makes Filipinos believe that they are being maltreated in whatever situation may be at hand, when in truth, it is merely their paranoia that is causing this belief. Another situation in which the api mentality may occur is when Filipinos grant the “pity” vote to other Filipinos. This means that there is a strong sense of empathy and sympathy for others, and that the person who is more of a “victim” is granted the favored vote, simply because he or she is suffering more.

Among the favorite pastimes of many Filipinos is watching television and engaging in the local shows that appear on it. Filipinos also enjoy reading Pinoy novels, which, in truth, share similar traits to those of the television series’. Within both the television series and the novel, one can find that the api mentality is a common theme that occurs, as it stirs much emotion, sympathy, and even attachment to certain characters who suffer as the victims of whatever the circumstance may be. In the teleserye, for instance, a common theme in a love story is the relationship between a wealthy character and a poor character. As their relationship grows, the poor character begins to feel as though he or she is being looked down upon by the family of the wealthy character.
The api mentality is certainly a trait of the Filipino people that many may view as a weakness. However, it is also of essence to recognize that the Filipino people take kindly to victims because it is an accompanying trait of the Filipino to be sensitive and sympathetic toward others’ circumstances.&quot;

Quoted from  -http://www.dailyrandomsites.com/examining-the-api-mentality-in-filipino-culture/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A pertinent quote which explains how a) The propaganda was so predictable. b) Support for the propaganda is so predictable.</p>
<p>Innate, defensive behaviour is of more importance than discovering the truth.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Philippines has had a long and tumultuous past, marked with colonialism and the endless search for true identity. Because the country spent so many years under colonial rule, the Filipinos were often left feeling like helpless victims. In fact, it is believed that one of the main reasons it seemed so easy for Spain to colonize the Philippines was because the Filipino people were awfully kind, forgiving, and subservient. It is because of this past that, until today, there remains a class hierarchy, as well as a struggle between the rich and the poor. As such, it is no surprise that among the many unique traits in Filipino culture is that of the “api” mentality, or, in English, the “victim” mentality.</p>
<p>The api mentality in Filipino culture is rooted in a strong sense of paranoia, or the undeniable feeling of inferiority. Perhaps it is only logical to blame the country’s past for this Filipino weakness, as it is still found in the psyche of many Filipinos today. </p>
<p>You might often hear the phrase “Parang ina-api ako,” which, in English, means, “I feel as though I’m being looked down upon,” or “I feel like I’m being treated like an insignificant person.” What this really means is that the api mentality makes Filipinos believe that they are being maltreated in whatever situation may be at hand, when in truth, it is merely their paranoia that is causing this belief. Another situation in which the api mentality may occur is when Filipinos grant the “pity” vote to other Filipinos. This means that there is a strong sense of empathy and sympathy for others, and that the person who is more of a “victim” is granted the favored vote, simply because he or she is suffering more.</p>
<p>Among the favorite pastimes of many Filipinos is watching television and engaging in the local shows that appear on it. Filipinos also enjoy reading Pinoy novels, which, in truth, share similar traits to those of the television series’. Within both the television series and the novel, one can find that the api mentality is a common theme that occurs, as it stirs much emotion, sympathy, and even attachment to certain characters who suffer as the victims of whatever the circumstance may be. In the teleserye, for instance, a common theme in a love story is the relationship between a wealthy character and a poor character. As their relationship grows, the poor character begins to feel as though he or she is being looked down upon by the family of the wealthy character.<br />
The api mentality is certainly a trait of the Filipino people that many may view as a weakness. However, it is also of essence to recognize that the Filipino people take kindly to victims because it is an accompanying trait of the Filipino to be sensitive and sympathetic toward others’ circumstances.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quoted from  -http://www.dailyrandomsites.com/examining-the-api-mentality-in-filipino-culture/</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Mr Briscolone - it&#039;s good to know that paranoia can be taught for online activities, maybe that accounts for the casual way that the word is used - in place of caution or common sense.
I can reassure readers that there are no mental problems - and I can so no connection between saving screenshots from the activity of an orchestrated group of bullies - and paranoia.
It is necessary to simply prove the bullying - or some might infer that it was all imagined.

Bully: &quot;Persecute, oppress, physically or morally, by (threat of) superior force.&quot;

Superior force represented in this case only by quantity and the strategic abilty to make poisoned propaganda immediately virulent - &amp; contagious, it would seem.

&quot;1-accusing people of wrongdoing.&quot;

It is a counter-accusation - to counter the false accusations of my abhorrent  morality, which came flying towards me for one simple reason.
Because I was insisting on some official proof - from the people whose responsibility it was to provide it.
Please remember that this happened some considerable time before I took the last resort of publishing  the story online.
Had that all been dealt with in a civilised and satisfactory manner - then none of this would be visible at all.

&quot;2-you can give no evidence that clearly shows you are telling the truth.&quot;

Perhaps you have a point - perhaps not.
That would depend on what you consider evidence. It is more than convenient for your obstinate position to insist on the standards of the real world - forgetting that this is all relative to its unfolding on the Internet.
Within the context of its unfolding - I have more than enough evidence for suspicion.
Those suspicions are voiced in my story.
It is for the people concerned to come forward and defend their own honour.
It is also relevant to the voices of condemnation upon the Internet - because that is their sole access to the entire episode, but those very same voices are insisting that the matter of evidence be viewed - out of context.
Do not confuse the issues.
The recognition of causes for suspicion - proof absolute - and the requirements of propaganda.
I can see the distinction quite clearly - you cannot - or are pretending not to, for the support of your own argument.

&quot;3-you have a way of “talking” on the web that qualifies you as a paranoid arrogant mr. knowitall spammer and really annoying loser.&quot;

Tough - that is your opinion - to which you are entitled.
You have a way of talking that qualifies you as a thug - so what?

&quot;4-you pretend that who doesn’t believe in your story HAS TO provide evidence that you’re wrong.&quot;

No - but I would insist that they give serious and thoughtful consideration to all the implications and the causes of all my suspicions.
I would insist that they see this episode from my perspective - rather than immediately take sides - simply as a knee-jerk reaction to their own innate biases.

You, Briscolone, are fearful of revealing the obvious causes for your own bias - that is why you wish to remain anonymous.
You have a bias above and beyond any pretences at being a normal human being.

Just look at the commitment, the obsession you have with this - been following (according to you) since way back - still can&#039;t leave it alone.
For some reason, you have taken it personally, you have allowed a hatred to take root in you.

So - here&#039;s a golden opportunity.
Say what it is you have to say - spell out your requirements.
Don&#039;t mince your words.
What do you think is the best way forwards from here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mr Briscolone &#8211; it&#8217;s good to know that paranoia can be taught for online activities, maybe that accounts for the casual way that the word is used &#8211; in place of caution or common sense.<br />
I can reassure readers that there are no mental problems &#8211; and I can so no connection between saving screenshots from the activity of an orchestrated group of bullies &#8211; and paranoia.<br />
It is necessary to simply prove the bullying &#8211; or some might infer that it was all imagined.</p>
<p>Bully: &#8220;Persecute, oppress, physically or morally, by (threat of) superior force.&#8221;</p>
<p>Superior force represented in this case only by quantity and the strategic abilty to make poisoned propaganda immediately virulent &#8211; &amp; contagious, it would seem.</p>
<p>&#8220;1-accusing people of wrongdoing.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is a counter-accusation &#8211; to counter the false accusations of my abhorrent  morality, which came flying towards me for one simple reason.<br />
Because I was insisting on some official proof &#8211; from the people whose responsibility it was to provide it.<br />
Please remember that this happened some considerable time before I took the last resort of publishing  the story online.<br />
Had that all been dealt with in a civilised and satisfactory manner &#8211; then none of this would be visible at all.</p>
<p>&#8220;2-you can give no evidence that clearly shows you are telling the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps you have a point &#8211; perhaps not.<br />
That would depend on what you consider evidence. It is more than convenient for your obstinate position to insist on the standards of the real world &#8211; forgetting that this is all relative to its unfolding on the Internet.<br />
Within the context of its unfolding &#8211; I have more than enough evidence for suspicion.<br />
Those suspicions are voiced in my story.<br />
It is for the people concerned to come forward and defend their own honour.<br />
It is also relevant to the voices of condemnation upon the Internet &#8211; because that is their sole access to the entire episode, but those very same voices are insisting that the matter of evidence be viewed &#8211; out of context.<br />
Do not confuse the issues.<br />
The recognition of causes for suspicion &#8211; proof absolute &#8211; and the requirements of propaganda.<br />
I can see the distinction quite clearly &#8211; you cannot &#8211; or are pretending not to, for the support of your own argument.</p>
<p>&#8220;3-you have a way of “talking” on the web that qualifies you as a paranoid arrogant mr. knowitall spammer and really annoying loser.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tough &#8211; that is your opinion &#8211; to which you are entitled.<br />
You have a way of talking that qualifies you as a thug &#8211; so what?</p>
<p>&#8220;4-you pretend that who doesn’t believe in your story HAS TO provide evidence that you’re wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>No &#8211; but I would insist that they give serious and thoughtful consideration to all the implications and the causes of all my suspicions.<br />
I would insist that they see this episode from my perspective &#8211; rather than immediately take sides &#8211; simply as a knee-jerk reaction to their own innate biases.</p>
<p>You, Briscolone, are fearful of revealing the obvious causes for your own bias &#8211; that is why you wish to remain anonymous.<br />
You have a bias above and beyond any pretences at being a normal human being.</p>
<p>Just look at the commitment, the obsession you have with this &#8211; been following (according to you) since way back &#8211; still can&#8217;t leave it alone.<br />
For some reason, you have taken it personally, you have allowed a hatred to take root in you.</p>
<p>So &#8211; here&#8217;s a golden opportunity.<br />
Say what it is you have to say &#8211; spell out your requirements.<br />
Don&#8217;t mince your words.<br />
What do you think is the best way forwards from here?</p>
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		<title>By: Briscolone</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1176</link>
		<dc:creator>Briscolone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a mission, i only have the same right you have to write what i think, in this &quot;blog&quot; and in any other website of which i can be a member.
I am exercising my right to write just for the sake of it, i won&#039;t gain nor lose a penny and i have nothing to do with propaganda.
I just happened to read your novel long time ago, before you restricted access to it. Then, after some time, i read all the shit that you scattered in places like theworldoffilipinas and liveinthephilippines. It was really surprising to read the venom you spitted at people who only gave you honest replies and your childish way to deal with criticism.
From then on it was like a &quot;crescendo&quot; of idiocy, when you started accusing everybody of being part of the supposed scam it was some kind of paranoid-climax.
After this website was brought up i had a chance to read all your shit again, to check some things that were not perfectly clear in my memory; you know, i am required to teach people to be &quot;paranoid&quot; in their online activities, it&#039;s part of my job, but when i&#039;m at home or during the lunch break i don&#039;t really save screenshots of everything as you seem to do, i don&#039;t memorize like a poem whatever strange story i read and i don&#039;t do forensics or investigations on matters that are not my business.
The one who is stuck between a rock and a hard place is you, trollumbra, because you are:
1-accusing people of wrongdoing.
2-you can give no evidence that clearly shows you are telling the truth.
3-you have a way of &quot;talking&quot; on the web that qualifies you as a paranoid arrogant mr. knowitall spammer and really annoying loser
4-you pretend that who doesn&#039;t believe in your story HAS TO provide evidence that you&#039;re wrong.

You ask me about details of my private life, i&#039;m not going to tell you any of those. Why should i? To be exposed on one of your blogs as the nasty westerner who supports the eastern rackets? Naah, i can just tell you that i&#039;m here just by chance, or coincidence if you prefer, i am not absolutely sure that Mayen&#039;s scar was smudged, i have no evidence that mr. Jalbuena is anything different from a honest Pinoy businessman, i have no evidence that mrs. Dado is anything different from a middle-class Pinay blogger, eventually having her own links to mr. Jalbuena or Jepoy and his friends. You jigsawed everything into a crime syndicate of wich i can&#039;t even smell the smoke and without smoke i don&#039;t believe there&#039;s a fire.
By the way, since you seem to paranoid-think i&#039;m connected to Jepoy, i can tell you that i don&#039;t know him personally, we&#039;re not related in any way and he didn&#039;t even reply to my &quot;happy easter&quot; message.
We use the same common language? I don&#039;t know but you are aware that we are both translating from our mother tongues to english, so maybe that&#039;s what we sound similar to you. Don&#039;t expect to read The Perfect English from a foreigner; hell, northamericans mostly speak something that is harder to understand than my english after a dozen of gin-tonics!
Psychology expert is too much but i know a few things, and it is something that helps a lot to do my job better.
Predictable? Yes, probably. Because i am a normal human being and they tend to be predictable very often.
You differ, since you show some forms of unpredictable behaviour that could be due to a very bad anger management or a mental condition of bypolar depression with paranoia  and an enormous ego mixed together to make the ellumbra cocktail.
By the way, i don&#039;t remember any invitation from you, apart from your continuous asking me to evaluate your theories about perception.
Finally, i am not a Corleone or Capone mafia man; if i were a dangerous criminal with connections to the real crime syndicates i would have probably found a way to have you involved in some terrible accident, don&#039;t you think? I am a honest and law abiding citizen, instead, and i will do nothing to harm you even though your attitude and behaviour would probably get you a kick in the balls from the Dalai Lama himself.
Enough for now. Before you post again, will you please find a nice doctor who takes care of your problems? Thank you. Have a troublesome night, filled with dreams of lynchmobs and bad guys with black moustaches from Sicily running after you with shotguns and hitting you with mandolins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a mission, i only have the same right you have to write what i think, in this &#8220;blog&#8221; and in any other website of which i can be a member.<br />
I am exercising my right to write just for the sake of it, i won&#8217;t gain nor lose a penny and i have nothing to do with propaganda.<br />
I just happened to read your novel long time ago, before you restricted access to it. Then, after some time, i read all the shit that you scattered in places like theworldoffilipinas and liveinthephilippines. It was really surprising to read the venom you spitted at people who only gave you honest replies and your childish way to deal with criticism.<br />
From then on it was like a &#8220;crescendo&#8221; of idiocy, when you started accusing everybody of being part of the supposed scam it was some kind of paranoid-climax.<br />
After this website was brought up i had a chance to read all your shit again, to check some things that were not perfectly clear in my memory; you know, i am required to teach people to be &#8220;paranoid&#8221; in their online activities, it&#8217;s part of my job, but when i&#8217;m at home or during the lunch break i don&#8217;t really save screenshots of everything as you seem to do, i don&#8217;t memorize like a poem whatever strange story i read and i don&#8217;t do forensics or investigations on matters that are not my business.<br />
The one who is stuck between a rock and a hard place is you, trollumbra, because you are:<br />
1-accusing people of wrongdoing.<br />
2-you can give no evidence that clearly shows you are telling the truth.<br />
3-you have a way of &#8220;talking&#8221; on the web that qualifies you as a paranoid arrogant mr. knowitall spammer and really annoying loser<br />
4-you pretend that who doesn&#8217;t believe in your story HAS TO provide evidence that you&#8217;re wrong.</p>
<p>You ask me about details of my private life, i&#8217;m not going to tell you any of those. Why should i? To be exposed on one of your blogs as the nasty westerner who supports the eastern rackets? Naah, i can just tell you that i&#8217;m here just by chance, or coincidence if you prefer, i am not absolutely sure that Mayen&#8217;s scar was smudged, i have no evidence that mr. Jalbuena is anything different from a honest Pinoy businessman, i have no evidence that mrs. Dado is anything different from a middle-class Pinay blogger, eventually having her own links to mr. Jalbuena or Jepoy and his friends. You jigsawed everything into a crime syndicate of wich i can&#8217;t even smell the smoke and without smoke i don&#8217;t believe there&#8217;s a fire.<br />
By the way, since you seem to paranoid-think i&#8217;m connected to Jepoy, i can tell you that i don&#8217;t know him personally, we&#8217;re not related in any way and he didn&#8217;t even reply to my &#8220;happy easter&#8221; message.<br />
We use the same common language? I don&#8217;t know but you are aware that we are both translating from our mother tongues to english, so maybe that&#8217;s what we sound similar to you. Don&#8217;t expect to read The Perfect English from a foreigner; hell, northamericans mostly speak something that is harder to understand than my english after a dozen of gin-tonics!<br />
Psychology expert is too much but i know a few things, and it is something that helps a lot to do my job better.<br />
Predictable? Yes, probably. Because i am a normal human being and they tend to be predictable very often.<br />
You differ, since you show some forms of unpredictable behaviour that could be due to a very bad anger management or a mental condition of bypolar depression with paranoia  and an enormous ego mixed together to make the ellumbra cocktail.<br />
By the way, i don&#8217;t remember any invitation from you, apart from your continuous asking me to evaluate your theories about perception.<br />
Finally, i am not a Corleone or Capone mafia man; if i were a dangerous criminal with connections to the real crime syndicates i would have probably found a way to have you involved in some terrible accident, don&#8217;t you think? I am a honest and law abiding citizen, instead, and i will do nothing to harm you even though your attitude and behaviour would probably get you a kick in the balls from the Dalai Lama himself.<br />
Enough for now. Before you post again, will you please find a nice doctor who takes care of your problems? Thank you. Have a troublesome night, filled with dreams of lynchmobs and bad guys with black moustaches from Sicily running after you with shotguns and hitting you with mandolins.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1175</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your postings prove quite a lot, Briscolone.

a) That you are confident that all your visitors here are as dense as you must be, or you would not write such utter nonsense.
b) You are confident that many visitors here will be on the same mission as yourself - ably demonstrated by your latest non-contribution.

You see, you are caught between a rock and a hard place.
It is perfectly obvious that this whole propaganda campaign was initiated to provide a cover - to obscure and distract from the story which I have published.
It clearly serves no other purpose whatsoever.
Only the people concerned in hatching the idea are privy to that reason - and it must be kept a secret at all times.
Once the campaign was under way - with several severely distorted platforms available -  it would attract further irresponsible &amp; unsubstantiated comments, purely as a result of the severe distortion, a result of the way that the story has been presented in such an obviously twisted way.

All these additional people, completely unaware of the original purpose for what it is they are now appearing to support.
But not you, Briscolone.
No - you are fully informed - your comments prove it.

Who are you?
Some  relative of Jepoy, in Italy?
You share exactly the same MO as Jepoy.
You use the same common language.
You have an identically short fuse.
You are equally easy to predict.
You even seem to share the same work skills and knowledge.

Are you one of his family members whom I wrote to - explaining how Jepoy was being such an idiot?
Are you as much of an idiot, to start supporting him, to lend your bigoted approval to his activity?
Do you share the same family links?

Or perhaps - you are some sort of psychology expert, employed by the mob?
Your psychology is suitably dull and defensive - without knowing more about you - that could certainly be possible - you show all the signs.

A really thick goon - trying to help mop up a mess.

Briscolone - Corleone - Capone.
One thing in common.

Maybe that&#039;s why you haven&#039;t responded to my invitation yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your postings prove quite a lot, Briscolone.</p>
<p>a) That you are confident that all your visitors here are as dense as you must be, or you would not write such utter nonsense.<br />
b) You are confident that many visitors here will be on the same mission as yourself &#8211; ably demonstrated by your latest non-contribution.</p>
<p>You see, you are caught between a rock and a hard place.<br />
It is perfectly obvious that this whole propaganda campaign was initiated to provide a cover &#8211; to obscure and distract from the story which I have published.<br />
It clearly serves no other purpose whatsoever.<br />
Only the people concerned in hatching the idea are privy to that reason &#8211; and it must be kept a secret at all times.<br />
Once the campaign was under way &#8211; with several severely distorted platforms available &#8211;  it would attract further irresponsible &amp; unsubstantiated comments, purely as a result of the severe distortion, a result of the way that the story has been presented in such an obviously twisted way.</p>
<p>All these additional people, completely unaware of the original purpose for what it is they are now appearing to support.<br />
But not you, Briscolone.<br />
No &#8211; you are fully informed &#8211; your comments prove it.</p>
<p>Who are you?<br />
Some  relative of Jepoy, in Italy?<br />
You share exactly the same MO as Jepoy.<br />
You use the same common language.<br />
You have an identically short fuse.<br />
You are equally easy to predict.<br />
You even seem to share the same work skills and knowledge.</p>
<p>Are you one of his family members whom I wrote to &#8211; explaining how Jepoy was being such an idiot?<br />
Are you as much of an idiot, to start supporting him, to lend your bigoted approval to his activity?<br />
Do you share the same family links?</p>
<p>Or perhaps &#8211; you are some sort of psychology expert, employed by the mob?<br />
Your psychology is suitably dull and defensive &#8211; without knowing more about you &#8211; that could certainly be possible &#8211; you show all the signs.</p>
<p>A really thick goon &#8211; trying to help mop up a mess.</p>
<p>Briscolone &#8211; Corleone &#8211; Capone.<br />
One thing in common.</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s why you haven&#8217;t responded to my invitation yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Briscolone</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1174</link>
		<dc:creator>Briscolone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go on behaving like a total paranoid moron, go on with your stupid attributions and go on posting after you said you wouldn&#039;t.
You are being very helpful trollumbra, because you are the one showing what a paranoidiot stubborn arrogant sad old child you are with little effort on my side.
In the end it may seem a no-win situation but you are clearly the loser, for the aforementioned reason.
Thank you, trollumbra, for giving more and more proof that your attitude and behaviour, with or without scam, is the attitude and behaviour of somebody who should be banned from every available website or service.
If somebody moved a few steps in the Philippines you should be banned from physical entry in that country by now, so enjoy your sad pathetic life in the UK and stop vomiting your nonsense over the web. Your fault, gtfo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go on behaving like a total paranoid moron, go on with your stupid attributions and go on posting after you said you wouldn&#8217;t.<br />
You are being very helpful trollumbra, because you are the one showing what a paranoidiot stubborn arrogant sad old child you are with little effort on my side.<br />
In the end it may seem a no-win situation but you are clearly the loser, for the aforementioned reason.<br />
Thank you, trollumbra, for giving more and more proof that your attitude and behaviour, with or without scam, is the attitude and behaviour of somebody who should be banned from every available website or service.<br />
If somebody moved a few steps in the Philippines you should be banned from physical entry in that country by now, so enjoy your sad pathetic life in the UK and stop vomiting your nonsense over the web. Your fault, gtfo.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1173</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you not see how hypocritical you are being?
You, who have just written a &quot;non-answer&quot; to my invitation?

Clumsily having side-stepped the original thrust of my comment about crime syndicates, you proceed to throw more leaves on the fire - creating more obscuring smoke.

The point that you side-stepped was this.

I am not talking about a hypothetical situation - I am talking about a real situation, in which there is a real possibility of a crime syndicate&#039;s involvement.

It has yet to be uncovered - therefore it is clandestine - hidden.
If you as a &quot;law-abiding citizen&quot; can confidently deny all possibility - it strongly suggests that you have inside information - either through you investigative work or otherwise.
Investigative work does not include people&#039;s opinions - because the same rule applies to them also - they are either party to what is going on in this particular situation, irrelevant of how they came to possess that information - or they are completely in the dark - with regard to this specific situation - and are therefore not in a position to be able to deny any possibility.

So - please don&#039;t avoid my questions and invitations - tell us all that you know about this specific situation - that allows you to eliminate any possibility of a crime syndicate being involved.

You, no doubt, will follow your habitual pattern of dismissal - by suggesting that it is  wild and paranoid imaginings - when you are not in a position to do so - being totally unconnected.

Your denial is completely hollow - unless of course you have some specific information.
That is the purpose of my invitation to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you not see how hypocritical you are being?<br />
You, who have just written a &#8220;non-answer&#8221; to my invitation?</p>
<p>Clumsily having side-stepped the original thrust of my comment about crime syndicates, you proceed to throw more leaves on the fire &#8211; creating more obscuring smoke.</p>
<p>The point that you side-stepped was this.</p>
<p>I am not talking about a hypothetical situation &#8211; I am talking about a real situation, in which there is a real possibility of a crime syndicate&#8217;s involvement.</p>
<p>It has yet to be uncovered &#8211; therefore it is clandestine &#8211; hidden.<br />
If you as a &#8220;law-abiding citizen&#8221; can confidently deny all possibility &#8211; it strongly suggests that you have inside information &#8211; either through you investigative work or otherwise.<br />
Investigative work does not include people&#8217;s opinions &#8211; because the same rule applies to them also &#8211; they are either party to what is going on in this particular situation, irrelevant of how they came to possess that information &#8211; or they are completely in the dark &#8211; with regard to this specific situation &#8211; and are therefore not in a position to be able to deny any possibility.</p>
<p>So &#8211; please don&#8217;t avoid my questions and invitations &#8211; tell us all that you know about this specific situation &#8211; that allows you to eliminate any possibility of a crime syndicate being involved.</p>
<p>You, no doubt, will follow your habitual pattern of dismissal &#8211; by suggesting that it is  wild and paranoid imaginings &#8211; when you are not in a position to do so &#8211; being totally unconnected.</p>
<p>Your denial is completely hollow &#8211; unless of course you have some specific information.<br />
That is the purpose of my invitation to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Briscolone</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1172</link>
		<dc:creator>Briscolone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellumbra said:
&quot;I do not consider it worth again addressing you, or indeed wasting another second of this precious life – lending you the slightest suspicion of honesty.&quot;
Then ellumbra said:
&quot;Rather defensive aren’t we Briscolone?&quot;
Now who is being defensive?
I know, sad old paranoid spoiled children usually want to have the last word on every argument.
I&#039;m not gonna list again my questions and objections, which were aimed at making you understand something that the world + dog understood already.
That is, you behave like a paranoidiot spammer arrogant knowitall and you can&#039;t stand opinions which differ from yours.
You keep talking about distortion and bluff but you should go back to read this long discussion from the start, find all the questions and objections, read your non-answers and then go offline for a hundred years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellumbra said:<br />
&#8220;I do not consider it worth again addressing you, or indeed wasting another second of this precious life – lending you the slightest suspicion of honesty.&#8221;<br />
Then ellumbra said:<br />
&#8220;Rather defensive aren’t we Briscolone?&#8221;<br />
Now who is being defensive?<br />
I know, sad old paranoid spoiled children usually want to have the last word on every argument.<br />
I&#8217;m not gonna list again my questions and objections, which were aimed at making you understand something that the world + dog understood already.<br />
That is, you behave like a paranoidiot spammer arrogant knowitall and you can&#8217;t stand opinions which differ from yours.<br />
You keep talking about distortion and bluff but you should go back to read this long discussion from the start, find all the questions and objections, read your non-answers and then go offline for a hundred years.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1171</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - you haven&#039;t asked any questions yet that have gone unanswered.
So kindly desist from yet more false allegations - or you risk appearing just like someone who is trying to distort reality for effect.

If you are pretending to be incapable of understanding subtlety &amp; concealed but obvious implications, then you are not doing yourself any favours - &quot;any other reader&quot; will soon detect that it is a deliberate bluff.

If you want to get questions answered, I suggest you ask them in a direct manner - surrounded by less fluff &amp; nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; you haven&#8217;t asked any questions yet that have gone unanswered.<br />
So kindly desist from yet more false allegations &#8211; or you risk appearing just like someone who is trying to distort reality for effect.</p>
<p>If you are pretending to be incapable of understanding subtlety &amp; concealed but obvious implications, then you are not doing yourself any favours &#8211; &#8220;any other reader&#8221; will soon detect that it is a deliberate bluff.</p>
<p>If you want to get questions answered, I suggest you ask them in a direct manner &#8211; surrounded by less fluff &amp; nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1170</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather defensive aren&#039;t we Briscolone?

I did not say a participant - I specifically said a party to it - meaning precisely what you have outlined.
That to make such a bold claim, you must therefore have specific knowledge of these matters.

It is an invitation for you to describe just exactly what your knowledge is of crime syndicates - so that you can correct the errors in my assumptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather defensive aren&#8217;t we Briscolone?</p>
<p>I did not say a participant &#8211; I specifically said a party to it &#8211; meaning precisely what you have outlined.<br />
That to make such a bold claim, you must therefore have specific knowledge of these matters.</p>
<p>It is an invitation for you to describe just exactly what your knowledge is of crime syndicates &#8211; so that you can correct the errors in my assumptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Briscolone</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1168</link>
		<dc:creator>Briscolone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since ellumbra says that he&#039;s not gonna waste another second of his precious life with me, and it&#039;s his right to do wtf he likes with his precious life, i&#039;m just gonna say to any other reader that the paranoid sad spoiled child, even if he tries to argument a bit on his philosophical bullshit about perception and the bad boys being nasty on the web, he avoids answering to any question or objection; he only tries to push his story of a crime syndicate; he keeps accusing of bullying whoever doesn&#039;t agree with him that &quot;something [that] is invisible to the eye of a law-abiding citizen because it is hidden – then it can neither be confirmed nor denied&quot; actually exists.
Having a long, long background on the internet because of my job, having been online since when the internet was more a privilege of few academics than an instrument available to the public, i will produce my verbal certification stating, after a thorough evaluation, that mister ellumbra is, indeed, an internet TROLL.
Good riddance, ellumbrino, and sweet nightmares of organized crime, mafia killers and crime syndicates knocking at your door in the middle of the night.
p.s., last ellumbra bullshit: &quot;If crime syndicates operate – then they exist.
If you know how they operate – you must be party to it – because it is clandestine.&quot; SO anybody with a background of studies on that matter, any judge, any investigator or inquirer or detective MUST be party to the criminal activities they know because of their jobs or interests?
What a moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since ellumbra says that he&#8217;s not gonna waste another second of his precious life with me, and it&#8217;s his right to do wtf he likes with his precious life, i&#8217;m just gonna say to any other reader that the paranoid sad spoiled child, even if he tries to argument a bit on his philosophical bullshit about perception and the bad boys being nasty on the web, he avoids answering to any question or objection; he only tries to push his story of a crime syndicate; he keeps accusing of bullying whoever doesn&#8217;t agree with him that &#8220;something [that] is invisible to the eye of a law-abiding citizen because it is hidden – then it can neither be confirmed nor denied&#8221; actually exists.<br />
Having a long, long background on the internet because of my job, having been online since when the internet was more a privilege of few academics than an instrument available to the public, i will produce my verbal certification stating, after a thorough evaluation, that mister ellumbra is, indeed, an internet TROLL.<br />
Good riddance, ellumbrino, and sweet nightmares of organized crime, mafia killers and crime syndicates knocking at your door in the middle of the night.<br />
p.s., last ellumbra bullshit: &#8220;If crime syndicates operate – then they exist.<br />
If you know how they operate – you must be party to it – because it is clandestine.&#8221; SO anybody with a background of studies on that matter, any judge, any investigator or inquirer or detective MUST be party to the criminal activities they know because of their jobs or interests?<br />
What a moron.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1167</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one final parting comment - to demonstrate to you how patently illogical your arguments have been.

You, Briscolone, and many others - have consistently been in denial of the possibility of any form of crime syndicate running a scam like this.

How can anything be denied as a possibility, when the thing that is being denied operates beneath the law and secretively?
If something is invisible to the eye of a law-abiding citizen because it is hidden - then it can neither be confirmed nor denied.

It&#039;s a straw man argument in reverse.

You all deny this on the strength of what?
That you do know exactly how crime syndicates operate?

If crime syndicates operate - then they exist.
If you know how they operate - you must be party to it - because it is clandestine.

But if you do not know how they operate - then you cannot deny a possibility.

It is a totally a self-defeating statement.
Just one - which illustrates the general trend of your argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one final parting comment &#8211; to demonstrate to you how patently illogical your arguments have been.</p>
<p>You, Briscolone, and many others &#8211; have consistently been in denial of the possibility of any form of crime syndicate running a scam like this.</p>
<p>How can anything be denied as a possibility, when the thing that is being denied operates beneath the law and secretively?<br />
If something is invisible to the eye of a law-abiding citizen because it is hidden &#8211; then it can neither be confirmed nor denied.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a straw man argument in reverse.</p>
<p>You all deny this on the strength of what?<br />
That you do know exactly how crime syndicates operate?</p>
<p>If crime syndicates operate &#8211; then they exist.<br />
If you know how they operate &#8211; you must be party to it &#8211; because it is clandestine.</p>
<p>But if you do not know how they operate &#8211; then you cannot deny a possibility.</p>
<p>It is a totally a self-defeating statement.<br />
Just one &#8211; which illustrates the general trend of your argument.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1166</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Moreover there are other examples about your behaviour online and they come from places where the scam was never mentioned&quot;

Proof absolute, if any more proof were needed, that you are most certainly up to your neck in the propaganda machine.

You cannot deny it now, Briscolone, after that remark.

Yes - much excavation has been done by these people, desperate to turn up anything negative about myself.
All they could find were a couple of comments, which when quoted here - entirely out of context - do the job for them.

Were anyone to examine the context, thoroughly, they would see quite clearly what was going on.
They would see quite clearly that my behaviour was more than exemplary and required by the circumstances.

Another occasion of Internet Bullying.

Being hounded by lynch-mobs - who consider their little corner of Internet real estate - their own little kingdom.

No - Briscolone - perception goes way beyond the physical senses.
It includes the intellect, intuition and common sense as well.
It includes a resonance with the norms of human behaviour.

Your arguments are pathetically &amp; criminally  inadequate.

Deliberately or unwittingly - anyone adding their weight to this campaign - are most emphatically benefiting the scammers.

If they have not got the wits to discover for themselves - nor the genuine impartiality to see straight through the diaphanous dialogues, and feeble logic - so biased that they are forever rolling away, out of the reach of sanity - then they are already beyond redemption.

You have proven yourself to be so obtuse, so dense - that I can see now that you are not the reflection of anyone real.

You are so obstinately switched-off to reason, so self-satisfied in your determined distortions - so terminally truncated in  genuine, human instinct - that it is plain to see your fakeness, your total artificiality, your mechanical numbness - the sinister vacancy in place of your morality.

From now on, Briscolone, your name is synonymous with subterfuge, of the empty vessel that makes the most noise.
Of the slippery slope to decay that a soul may slide down. 

I do not consider it worth again addressing you, or indeed wasting another second of this precious life - lending you the slightest suspicion of honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Moreover there are other examples about your behaviour online and they come from places where the scam was never mentioned&#8221;</p>
<p>Proof absolute, if any more proof were needed, that you are most certainly up to your neck in the propaganda machine.</p>
<p>You cannot deny it now, Briscolone, after that remark.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; much excavation has been done by these people, desperate to turn up anything negative about myself.<br />
All they could find were a couple of comments, which when quoted here &#8211; entirely out of context &#8211; do the job for them.</p>
<p>Were anyone to examine the context, thoroughly, they would see quite clearly what was going on.<br />
They would see quite clearly that my behaviour was more than exemplary and required by the circumstances.</p>
<p>Another occasion of Internet Bullying.</p>
<p>Being hounded by lynch-mobs &#8211; who consider their little corner of Internet real estate &#8211; their own little kingdom.</p>
<p>No &#8211; Briscolone &#8211; perception goes way beyond the physical senses.<br />
It includes the intellect, intuition and common sense as well.<br />
It includes a resonance with the norms of human behaviour.</p>
<p>Your arguments are pathetically &amp; criminally  inadequate.</p>
<p>Deliberately or unwittingly &#8211; anyone adding their weight to this campaign &#8211; are most emphatically benefiting the scammers.</p>
<p>If they have not got the wits to discover for themselves &#8211; nor the genuine impartiality to see straight through the diaphanous dialogues, and feeble logic &#8211; so biased that they are forever rolling away, out of the reach of sanity &#8211; then they are already beyond redemption.</p>
<p>You have proven yourself to be so obtuse, so dense &#8211; that I can see now that you are not the reflection of anyone real.</p>
<p>You are so obstinately switched-off to reason, so self-satisfied in your determined distortions &#8211; so terminally truncated in  genuine, human instinct &#8211; that it is plain to see your fakeness, your total artificiality, your mechanical numbness &#8211; the sinister vacancy in place of your morality.</p>
<p>From now on, Briscolone, your name is synonymous with subterfuge, of the empty vessel that makes the most noise.<br />
Of the slippery slope to decay that a soul may slide down. </p>
<p>I do not consider it worth again addressing you, or indeed wasting another second of this precious life &#8211; lending you the slightest suspicion of honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Briscolone</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>Briscolone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, well, i agree with you that there is supposed to be one, and only one real truth that can&#039;t be changed or faked but, since you spent words talking about perception you will agree with me when i say that one&#039;s perception is based on what stimulates his/her senses. If i blindfold you and i put cheese under your nose, i will have a hard time trying to convince you that you&#039;re smelling a piece of chocolate.
So, going back to your blogs, there are people who thought very bad things about you after reading your own work. You can&#039;t blame them for using their own perception.
I am not going to do an extensive research and lots of copy and paste, since i have nothing to gain and i am going to sleep in a minute but it&#039;s written on the web and you can&#039;t deny that you have always been ready to call names at everybody who didn&#039;t buy your scam theory.
Sure, you haven&#039;t put in writing that the reader has to believe everything you wrote but, here we are again, your behaviour is what condemned you already, in lots of people&#039;s perception, as the one who&#039;s trying to cover his wrongdoing.
Moreover there are other examples about your behaviour online and they come from places where the scam was never mentioned; it&#039;s easy for somebody who has enough patience to go following links and reading the linked discussion to have a perception of you as a spammer, a stubborn and childish internet user and somebody whose main goal is to impose his own perception of stuff.
So, if you can understand these things you can understand why lots of people are not actually joining a campaign of defamation against you but just expressing their own dislike of you because of your behaviour.
Unfortunately i don&#039;t expect your behaviour to change in a considerable way because from the start of this &quot;conversation&quot; you kept your usual way of answering to a question or objection with something that is definitely not an answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, well, i agree with you that there is supposed to be one, and only one real truth that can&#8217;t be changed or faked but, since you spent words talking about perception you will agree with me when i say that one&#8217;s perception is based on what stimulates his/her senses. If i blindfold you and i put cheese under your nose, i will have a hard time trying to convince you that you&#8217;re smelling a piece of chocolate.<br />
So, going back to your blogs, there are people who thought very bad things about you after reading your own work. You can&#8217;t blame them for using their own perception.<br />
I am not going to do an extensive research and lots of copy and paste, since i have nothing to gain and i am going to sleep in a minute but it&#8217;s written on the web and you can&#8217;t deny that you have always been ready to call names at everybody who didn&#8217;t buy your scam theory.<br />
Sure, you haven&#8217;t put in writing that the reader has to believe everything you wrote but, here we are again, your behaviour is what condemned you already, in lots of people&#8217;s perception, as the one who&#8217;s trying to cover his wrongdoing.<br />
Moreover there are other examples about your behaviour online and they come from places where the scam was never mentioned; it&#8217;s easy for somebody who has enough patience to go following links and reading the linked discussion to have a perception of you as a spammer, a stubborn and childish internet user and somebody whose main goal is to impose his own perception of stuff.<br />
So, if you can understand these things you can understand why lots of people are not actually joining a campaign of defamation against you but just expressing their own dislike of you because of your behaviour.<br />
Unfortunately i don&#8217;t expect your behaviour to change in a considerable way because from the start of this &#8220;conversation&#8221; you kept your usual way of answering to a question or objection with something that is definitely not an answer.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1156</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 04:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So - if we are honest, we must concede that very few people have direct and intimate knowledge of that truth. None whatsoever who are circulating on this merry-go-round of perception &amp; counter-perception. 

Only those who have that knowledge are capable of communicating it, or conversely, capable of concealing it.

Here we must apply ruthless honesty.

It is not my truth - or your truth.
Nobody can own a monopoly of that truth.

To demonstrate a concern that is purely intent on discovering that truth, the pitfalls of perception and perspective must be avoided and not encouraged.

A willingness to oblige an earnest seeker of that truth, convincingly &amp; privately - by those few people in certain possession of it - is a remarkably simple &amp; appealing alternative to launching a campaign, with the sole intent of hoodwinking perception.

In fact it is such an appealing alternative that a reluctance to adopt it initially - would suggest that it presented a major hurdle - an unsurmountable difficulty. 

Such an embarrassing difficulty would understandably be concealed behind an attempt to lure perception away from the cause of that embarrassment.

Such an attempt would undoubtedly reveal all the classic signs of defensive behaviour usually associated with embarrassment.

The most extreme and obvious being reclusion &amp; silence - behind a fake facade - the invisible scapegoat of other people&#039;s conscripted effort &amp; mock concern - busily pointing their hypocritcal &amp; accusative fingers at the distractive straw men of their own creation.

Now - tell me that is just a perception - and that it has no resonance with the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8211; if we are honest, we must concede that very few people have direct and intimate knowledge of that truth. None whatsoever who are circulating on this merry-go-round of perception &amp; counter-perception. </p>
<p>Only those who have that knowledge are capable of communicating it, or conversely, capable of concealing it.</p>
<p>Here we must apply ruthless honesty.</p>
<p>It is not my truth &#8211; or your truth.<br />
Nobody can own a monopoly of that truth.</p>
<p>To demonstrate a concern that is purely intent on discovering that truth, the pitfalls of perception and perspective must be avoided and not encouraged.</p>
<p>A willingness to oblige an earnest seeker of that truth, convincingly &amp; privately &#8211; by those few people in certain possession of it &#8211; is a remarkably simple &amp; appealing alternative to launching a campaign, with the sole intent of hoodwinking perception.</p>
<p>In fact it is such an appealing alternative that a reluctance to adopt it initially &#8211; would suggest that it presented a major hurdle &#8211; an unsurmountable difficulty. </p>
<p>Such an embarrassing difficulty would understandably be concealed behind an attempt to lure perception away from the cause of that embarrassment.</p>
<p>Such an attempt would undoubtedly reveal all the classic signs of defensive behaviour usually associated with embarrassment.</p>
<p>The most extreme and obvious being reclusion &amp; silence &#8211; behind a fake facade &#8211; the invisible scapegoat of other people&#8217;s conscripted effort &amp; mock concern &#8211; busily pointing their hypocritcal &amp; accusative fingers at the distractive straw men of their own creation.</p>
<p>Now &#8211; tell me that is just a perception &#8211; and that it has no resonance with the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1155</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 00:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy to note that you, at least, understand the concept of truth, Briscolone.
I am heartened that you can acknowledge that &quot;truth&quot; is not just an abstract, but a reality.
A reality that occurrs historically, but remains unchanged - and is the truth for all time.

It is independent of perspective - independent of how people can be trained to perceive.
It is written in the book of time - by those holding the pen.
It cannot be re-written by any living soul.

I was one of those - holding the pen.

Acutely aware that my understanding was merely a perspective - a perspective created by prior conditioning - I endeavoured to peer through the mists of  perception, to gaze directly at that truth.

My conclusion is that it is not possible to understand, outside of a perspective.
The very act of looking implies a fixed viewpoint.
In other words - we see exactly what we look for - we translate through the filters of our own perception - our understanding is no more than the consequence of that - it is piecemeal at the very best.
At worst - it is hopelessly flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy to note that you, at least, understand the concept of truth, Briscolone.<br />
I am heartened that you can acknowledge that &#8220;truth&#8221; is not just an abstract, but a reality.<br />
A reality that occurrs historically, but remains unchanged &#8211; and is the truth for all time.</p>
<p>It is independent of perspective &#8211; independent of how people can be trained to perceive.<br />
It is written in the book of time &#8211; by those holding the pen.<br />
It cannot be re-written by any living soul.</p>
<p>I was one of those &#8211; holding the pen.</p>
<p>Acutely aware that my understanding was merely a perspective &#8211; a perspective created by prior conditioning &#8211; I endeavoured to peer through the mists of  perception, to gaze directly at that truth.</p>
<p>My conclusion is that it is not possible to understand, outside of a perspective.<br />
The very act of looking implies a fixed viewpoint.<br />
In other words &#8211; we see exactly what we look for &#8211; we translate through the filters of our own perception &#8211; our understanding is no more than the consequence of that &#8211; it is piecemeal at the very best.<br />
At worst &#8211; it is hopelessly flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1154</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that you are rather presuming this &quot;expectation  to believe&quot; of which you write.

I don&#039;t think that you will find any additional clauses in my story that state &quot;This story must be believed - by everyone who reads it.&quot;

The particular flavour of the story is ambiguity &amp; dilemma - because those things, above anything else, are the predominant legacy of all the events since August 2007.

For simplicity&#039;s sake - we may consider that there are two simultaneous but opposing threads running throughout - 1) That Mayen&#039;s story was true. 2) That Mayen&#039;s story was fabricated.

The first of those threads needs no elaboration at all - it requires no understanding whatsoever to absorb how it could have been true.
It is self-explanatory and is fully expressed in one or two sentences.

The second and opposing thread, however, requires that a detailed explanation be supplied - for the suspicions that bring it into existence - in order to give reason for why it could have been true.

That is the nature of the ambiguity, the dilemma - and thus - the story.
Which is why there is no written insistence for anything to be believed.

However - it is apparent that some readers are easily toppled from their position of poise &amp; balance in ambivalence.
They cannot enjoy the frisson of tension that ambiguity provides - and opt for the security of creating an assured conclusion for themselves.

It was an implicit condition of the first thread that it be believed - and so - to keep the ambiguity perfectly balanced - the reader must apply the same condition to the second.
I have included some subtle reminders.

Some readers have resisted my beneficent attempts at reuniting them with the delights of ambiguity - of struggling with dilemma.

This resistance, quite surprisingly, has resulted in a copious volume of material being published - complaining of that charitable act - by readers who had settled themselves comfortably in the luxury of their decision.

I urge them to give it another read - you can&#039;t beat a good dilemma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that you are rather presuming this &#8220;expectation  to believe&#8221; of which you write.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that you will find any additional clauses in my story that state &#8220;This story must be believed &#8211; by everyone who reads it.&#8221;</p>
<p>The particular flavour of the story is ambiguity &amp; dilemma &#8211; because those things, above anything else, are the predominant legacy of all the events since August 2007.</p>
<p>For simplicity&#8217;s sake &#8211; we may consider that there are two simultaneous but opposing threads running throughout &#8211; 1) That Mayen&#8217;s story was true. 2) That Mayen&#8217;s story was fabricated.</p>
<p>The first of those threads needs no elaboration at all &#8211; it requires no understanding whatsoever to absorb how it could have been true.<br />
It is self-explanatory and is fully expressed in one or two sentences.</p>
<p>The second and opposing thread, however, requires that a detailed explanation be supplied &#8211; for the suspicions that bring it into existence &#8211; in order to give reason for why it could have been true.</p>
<p>That is the nature of the ambiguity, the dilemma &#8211; and thus &#8211; the story.<br />
Which is why there is no written insistence for anything to be believed.</p>
<p>However &#8211; it is apparent that some readers are easily toppled from their position of poise &amp; balance in ambivalence.<br />
They cannot enjoy the frisson of tension that ambiguity provides &#8211; and opt for the security of creating an assured conclusion for themselves.</p>
<p>It was an implicit condition of the first thread that it be believed &#8211; and so &#8211; to keep the ambiguity perfectly balanced &#8211; the reader must apply the same condition to the second.<br />
I have included some subtle reminders.</p>
<p>Some readers have resisted my beneficent attempts at reuniting them with the delights of ambiguity &#8211; of struggling with dilemma.</p>
<p>This resistance, quite surprisingly, has resulted in a copious volume of material being published &#8211; complaining of that charitable act &#8211; by readers who had settled themselves comfortably in the luxury of their decision.</p>
<p>I urge them to give it another read &#8211; you can&#8217;t beat a good dilemma.</p>
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		<title>By: Briscolone</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1152</link>
		<dc:creator>Briscolone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course we are on the same level of authority; we are both talking about something on a blog or whatever you like to call this place and neither of us can proof or show beyond any doubt that he is telling the truth.
If i ever put in writing what happened to me long time ago you would be fully entitled to disagree or put the blame on me or think that i am telling fairy tales.
Of course i am suggesting that as far as i know, and as far as many other readers know, your entire story is probably a short novel written with a layer of fantasy applied over the log of a love journey gone terribly bad. You are still pretending that everybody takes your word for sacred but there is and there will always be somebody who doesn&#039;t believe to you.
We probably give different meanings to the word &quot;messenger&quot; so no agreement here.
I am not saying that we&#039;re in courtroom but nonetheless you behave like a plaintiff and lawyer of himself who is fighting a lost cause trying to get a foreign company convicted for crimes that you cannot prove.
Let me remark the fact that if i don&#039;t believe in your &quot;real estate scamming westerners baiting them with love&quot; theory, that doesn&#039;t exactly mean i favour scammers.
Finally, where you say &quot;Unprepared or ill-equipped to discover for themselves&quot; you mean absolutely nothing because you seem to be the only one who is prepared or equipped, so either you are expecting others to have extra-sensorial-perception (or time and money for a real investigation abroad) to find out the truth or you are expecting others to blindly believe to your words and here we are again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course we are on the same level of authority; we are both talking about something on a blog or whatever you like to call this place and neither of us can proof or show beyond any doubt that he is telling the truth.<br />
If i ever put in writing what happened to me long time ago you would be fully entitled to disagree or put the blame on me or think that i am telling fairy tales.<br />
Of course i am suggesting that as far as i know, and as far as many other readers know, your entire story is probably a short novel written with a layer of fantasy applied over the log of a love journey gone terribly bad. You are still pretending that everybody takes your word for sacred but there is and there will always be somebody who doesn&#8217;t believe to you.<br />
We probably give different meanings to the word &#8220;messenger&#8221; so no agreement here.<br />
I am not saying that we&#8217;re in courtroom but nonetheless you behave like a plaintiff and lawyer of himself who is fighting a lost cause trying to get a foreign company convicted for crimes that you cannot prove.<br />
Let me remark the fact that if i don&#8217;t believe in your &#8220;real estate scamming westerners baiting them with love&#8221; theory, that doesn&#8217;t exactly mean i favour scammers.<br />
Finally, where you say &#8220;Unprepared or ill-equipped to discover for themselves&#8221; you mean absolutely nothing because you seem to be the only one who is prepared or equipped, so either you are expecting others to have extra-sensorial-perception (or time and money for a real investigation abroad) to find out the truth or you are expecting others to blindly believe to your words and here we are again.</p>
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		<title>By: ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://timcumper.com/archives/mayen-betita-a-filipina-who-learned-a-painful-lesson/comment-page-2/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 02:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Briscolone, we are not &quot;on the same level of authority while discussing stuff on the web.&quot;

1) The Philippines unfortunately has a developing reputation for scams, and those involving payment of hospital fees. If your incident occurred around a location that has no such reputation, then your naivety, your lack of caution in that situation is more understandable.
Perhaps you too would be more cautious a second time around, were it to happen again.
My caution arose partly from observing an already established reputation.
2) I have no reference to verify that this event actually happened to you. It could even be a fantasy, conjured up to illustrate the point you are making. 
Or are you suggesting that my entire story is a fantasy also?

To answer your questions.

What a neat little world it would be if we were to all restrict ourselves to single categories - to isolate and compartmentalise our different functions?
Ye,t how tediously monochrome that would be.
Fortunately, life is not at all like that.
We are multi-faceted human beings, capable of being anything we choose.

1) So I will vigorously disagree about my eligibility as messenger - for one thing, there is nobody else who could possibly fulfill  that function - to warn others of such a possibile eventuality occurring to them.

Secondly - the likening of the Internet to a civilised courtroom is already revealed to be seriously flawed, by the appearance of lynch-mobs and kangaroo courts.

2) I will concede that at times I have succumbed to over-heating, I have made mistakes, I have stooped to the level of those engaged in the attack.

3) If the importance of terminology employed is elevated above the serious nature of the subject matter, then I suppose that some will allow their focus to shift.
It has been apparent that the behaviour of many people involved in this attack is only of benefit to those whose reputation is at stake - thus, they will appear to be in support of those same parties.

The words &quot;supporters of scammers&quot; should have been used, many times in referrence to these people, &amp; not the words &quot;scammers&quot; or &quot;scammer&#039;s accomplice&quot;  - although such a fine distinction is purely nominal &amp; superficial.

Anyone not directly involved in producing the seed postings - with which to attract the flies, lured in by the smell of contempt - are, unwittingly contributing to their cause - the initial motivation - of helping to bury the original story.
By lending their comments, although entirely unsubstantiated and delivered in response to a distorted representation of that story - they are helping to build an illusion of consensus.
Unprepared or ill-equipped to discover for themselves, or already incited to a feeding frenzy by the diet of contempt on offer - these commentators are oblivious, for the most part, of the consequences or the implications of their actions.

It is such a remarkably clever scheme - tapping contempt -   and could only succeed  in an environment where free-flowing hostility and criticism are second nature.

Hope you get a good nights sleep. Buona notte.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Briscolone, we are not &#8220;on the same level of authority while discussing stuff on the web.&#8221;</p>
<p>1) The Philippines unfortunately has a developing reputation for scams, and those involving payment of hospital fees. If your incident occurred around a location that has no such reputation, then your naivety, your lack of caution in that situation is more understandable.<br />
Perhaps you too would be more cautious a second time around, were it to happen again.<br />
My caution arose partly from observing an already established reputation.<br />
2) I have no reference to verify that this event actually happened to you. It could even be a fantasy, conjured up to illustrate the point you are making.<br />
Or are you suggesting that my entire story is a fantasy also?</p>
<p>To answer your questions.</p>
<p>What a neat little world it would be if we were to all restrict ourselves to single categories &#8211; to isolate and compartmentalise our different functions?<br />
Ye,t how tediously monochrome that would be.<br />
Fortunately, life is not at all like that.<br />
We are multi-faceted human beings, capable of being anything we choose.</p>
<p>1) So I will vigorously disagree about my eligibility as messenger &#8211; for one thing, there is nobody else who could possibly fulfill  that function &#8211; to warn others of such a possibile eventuality occurring to them.</p>
<p>Secondly &#8211; the likening of the Internet to a civilised courtroom is already revealed to be seriously flawed, by the appearance of lynch-mobs and kangaroo courts.</p>
<p>2) I will concede that at times I have succumbed to over-heating, I have made mistakes, I have stooped to the level of those engaged in the attack.</p>
<p>3) If the importance of terminology employed is elevated above the serious nature of the subject matter, then I suppose that some will allow their focus to shift.<br />
It has been apparent that the behaviour of many people involved in this attack is only of benefit to those whose reputation is at stake &#8211; thus, they will appear to be in support of those same parties.</p>
<p>The words &#8220;supporters of scammers&#8221; should have been used, many times in referrence to these people, &amp; not the words &#8220;scammers&#8221; or &#8220;scammer&#8217;s accomplice&#8221;  &#8211; although such a fine distinction is purely nominal &amp; superficial.</p>
<p>Anyone not directly involved in producing the seed postings &#8211; with which to attract the flies, lured in by the smell of contempt &#8211; are, unwittingly contributing to their cause &#8211; the initial motivation &#8211; of helping to bury the original story.<br />
By lending their comments, although entirely unsubstantiated and delivered in response to a distorted representation of that story &#8211; they are helping to build an illusion of consensus.<br />
Unprepared or ill-equipped to discover for themselves, or already incited to a feeding frenzy by the diet of contempt on offer &#8211; these commentators are oblivious, for the most part, of the consequences or the implications of their actions.</p>
<p>It is such a remarkably clever scheme &#8211; tapping contempt &#8211;   and could only succeed  in an environment where free-flowing hostility and criticism are second nature.</p>
<p>Hope you get a good nights sleep. Buona notte.</p>
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